The boss system

[doomhathcometh]

What we have: there are four bosses on the map. One of which is also a spawn. Killing them drops a unique rune, which can be used to upgrade your weapon from T5 to T6. Death drops the rune.

What I like about this: death drops the rune. If you're good enough to take down the boss, even though they give really nice buffs, if you aren't conservative enough the other team can get a pretty big advantage.

What I don't like about this: Bosses don't heal over time much, so you can wound over multiple runs. Runes don't do enough (for the most part). Bosses can be a pain to get to.

The new system:

The temple of terror would be somewhere near where the naga currently are (Mannaroth would stay, but not drop a rune?). After 10ish minutes, a random boss would come forth, along with a few dudes who would go up ahead. The temple would heal the boss a lot when no one was attacking him. When the boss dies, it drops an item which can upgrade a weapon to T6, as well as a few misc items that help players out. 5 minutes after a boss dies, a better boss (more hp, armor, dmg) comes forth.

The big change:
Killing a boss gives the killer a title (X slayer). Whichever player has the title gets a buff, and maybe and active or passive ability. It would also give that factor more spawns in the lane.

Example:
After 20 minutes, Plinra the tide lord is finally slain by the blademaster, dropping the tide lord's heart (upgrades weapon to T6), and the tide lord's anchor, which gives a 40% chance for 25% cleaving attack within 250 range. The blademaster also gains the tidelord slayer title. This passively increased MP regen by 25%, hp by 200, and gives an ability which slows a target enemy's move and attack speed by 25% for 5 seconds, with a 40 second CD. Also, the freed naga slaves go to the northern base and start to attack the south.

Four minutes later, the blademaster is killed by a southern hero. That southern hero gets the tidelord slayer title. The naga, seeing their masters are weak, join the south.

-Doom

[doomhathcometh]

Full day now. No replies?

-Doom

[light]

K =/ I don't get what you're trying to say.

I'm actually waiting for someone else to reply so I actually can find out what you mean.

[doomhathcometh]

Not quite sure how to respond to that.

-Doom

[amdeadnow]

wouldnt u need a scoreboard that is actuve during whole game to tell the title name b/c i dont see any other way at this point. plus 2 items from a boss seems imba. how much bigger u want the map to be? right now its 1.22mb, and the runes that drop only once is ment to drop and only tapped once,
nerf idea of the 2 tiems: either u tier up to t6 wit the rune or u can carry the extra item or viceversa but not both.

[doomhathcometh]

There would be text floating about your head displaying titles. The item used to make t6 can only be used once. The actual number of item drops in unimportant, but there should be at least a few. They could be the same across bosses. In terms of size, keep in mind there are six items per hero. Adding a few more shouldn't make that big a difference.

-Doom

[amdeadnow]

lol its a big difference due to the fact that the bosses has only one item, and its an orb for taking out the air units that wander over it, other than that it doesnt have anything else worth it to kill it over and over again.

[doomhathcometh]

Wait. What? Excusing the grammatical imperfection, and the fact I think you used bg for big, I still have no idea what you are saying. Sorry

-Doom

[Mike Gale]

I like your idea doom, its pretty cool. The only problems I see with it are:

-Development Time: It would take days creating and testing this one aspect.
-Balance: Depending on the items dropped, making multiple epic items drop could end up being a rush for this boss instead of a rush for spawn points to win.
-Too much PvE Content: I feel there's already enough PvE content in the map for an AoS and too much more would really deviate from the PvP, which is already borderline deviated from too much.

Other than that it sounds like it could be a fun experience in another map.

[doomhathcometh]

While this would add more PVE content, it would replace the old boss system, as well as be a bigger motive for PVP. Balance would be extremely difficult on this, agreeably, and the time pressure makes this virtually unfeasible. In the event you do, however, continue work on this map after your blizzard application, this would be a cool feature to add. The items dropped by the boss wouldn't be that good, and likely single - use items. Stuff thats useful, but not really worth dying for.

-Doom

[bombader]

I for one do not see how this would work out, as the game is now, it's hard pressed to keep the line steady, and now I would have to kill a boss multiple times to keep up with enemy heroes?

[doomhathcometh]

Wha? You only have to kill a boss once. You then kill the boss-slayer to gain the additional spawn and ability. Did you actually red my example?

-Doom

[bombader]

I apologize then, I couldn't really grasp it the last time I was reading it.

However the map is congested with creeps as it is, adding more creeps by defeating bosses and or their killers would only begin to lag the map (Once that demon lord goes down, the map becomes a 3 way game). Currently bosses are sort of bonus if you could get them killed.

However having them insta heal after say 10 seconds of no engagement would encourage more players to join in killing the boss, this would prevent boss stealing anyway.

Also the items already give stuff like summons to players, I guess you can tie the system with those, though that would make them un-dropable.

Excuse my ranting... anyway

Feb 14, 2009 14:58:04 GMT -5 doomhathcometh said:

There would be text floating about your head displaying titles.
-Doom

You could, instead, change the player's name to Slayer Bombader. Then you would just need a quest popup declaring it, or check allies tab to see who is currently slayer. Much how Survival adds Corporal Bombader mid game when one is promoted.

Last note, I always assumed the top bosses they never respawn, since the T6 was a valuable thing.

[doomhathcometh]

Meh. There would one be one boss at a time, instead of 3 or 4 bosses that start out. The healing would mostly be used to ensure you can't beat the guy over multiple runs. It would be more like after 10 secs of taking no dmg, it heals 10 hp per sec. You can't summon creeps. They join you're teams main spawn at the barracks. There would be no 'ranking up'. After you kill the boss, the bonus remains constant. You lose it when you die, and your killer gets it. If its a creep kill, then the bonus is lost forever. If it is a team creep kill, whoever did the most dmg (the assisting player) gets the bonus.

-Doom

[bombader]

What about a team kill?

Like your low on HP, and an ally decides to be an ass.